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Old 07-27-2007, 08:23 PM   #1
mcp6453
 
Default Diet and Your Prostate

As I grapple with the debate over aspartame poisoning has any merit
(trying to determine the cause of numbness in my hands, feet, and face
after losing 30 pounds on LC), I find this article:

Diet and Your Prostate
December 22, 2003
Dietary Links to Prostate Cancer

A new multi-country study strengthens the link between animal products
as risk factors for prostate cancer, and vegetable products, especially
onions, as risk reduction factors. The study, now on line at European
Urology,* (William B. Grant, Ph.D., A multicountry ecologic study of
risk and risk reduction factors for prostate cancer mortality, European
Urology, doi:10.1016/j.eururo.2003.08.018), investigated links between
national diets and prostate cancer mortality rates to identify major
risk factors for prostate cancer. The indication that this might be a
useful approach comes from comparing national prostate cancer mortality
rates: prostate cancer mortality rates in the U.S. and northern Europe
are approximately 5 times higher than in Hong Kong, Iran, Japan, and
Turkey.

The strongest risk factor for prostate cancer mortality was animal
products, such as meat and dairy products; the strongest risk reduction
factors were onions and other protective vegetable products
(cereals/grains, beans, fruits, and vegetables, but excluding alcohol,
oils, and added sugar (sweeteners)). Thus, fat and protein are risk
factors, while complex carbohydrates and antioxidants are risk reduction
factors. This finding points to insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I)
being an important risk factor for prostate cancer. IGF-I is also
increased by total energy consumption. This study supports earlier
reports that allium family vegetables (e.g., garlic, leeks, and onions)
as important risk reduction factors for prostate cancer. This study also
found that alcohol is a minor risk factor. No independent correlation
was found for tomatoes, a source of lycopene, thought to reduce the risk
of prostate cancer.

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Old 07-27-2007, 08:23 PM   #2
Kragness1
 
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Its a good thing correlations do not prove a theory, its just a correlation.

-Scott
213/163/160
http://kragness1.home.comcast.net/lowcarb/


"mcp6453" <mcp6453@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> As I grapple with the debate over aspartame poisoning has any merit
> (trying to determine the cause of numbness in my hands, feet, and face
> after losing 30 pounds on LC), I find this article:
>
> Diet and Your Prostate
> December 22, 2003
> Dietary Links to Prostate Cancer
>
> A new multi-country study strengthens the link between animal products
> as risk factors for prostate cancer, and vegetable products, especially
> onions, as risk reduction factors. The study, now on line at European
> Urology,* (William B. Grant, Ph.D., A multicountry ecologic study of
> risk and risk reduction factors for prostate cancer mortality, European
> Urology, doi:10.1016/j.eururo.2003.08.018), investigated links between
> national diets and prostate cancer mortality rates to identify major
> risk factors for prostate cancer. The indication that this might be a
> useful approach comes from comparing national prostate cancer mortality
> rates: prostate cancer mortality rates in the U.S. and northern Europe
> are approximately 5 times higher than in Hong Kong, Iran, Japan, and
> Turkey.
>
> The strongest risk factor for prostate cancer mortality was animal
> products, such as meat and dairy products; the strongest risk reduction
> factors were onions and other protective vegetable products
> (cereals/grains, beans, fruits, and vegetables, but excluding alcohol,
> oils, and added sugar (sweeteners)). Thus, fat and protein are risk
> factors, while complex carbohydrates and antioxidants are risk reduction
> factors. This finding points to insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I)
> being an important risk factor for prostate cancer. IGF-I is also
> increased by total energy consumption. This study supports earlier
> reports that allium family vegetables (e.g., garlic, leeks, and onions)
> as important risk reduction factors for prostate cancer. This study also
> found that alcohol is a minor risk factor. No independent correlation
> was found for tomatoes, a source of lycopene, thought to reduce the risk
> of prostate cancer.
>
> <...>
>
> >

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Old 07-27-2007, 08:24 PM   #3
Jenny
 
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>strongest risk factor for prostate cancer mortality was animal
>products, such as meat and dairy products; the strongest risk reduction



<SNIP>
>Thus, fat and protein are risk
>factors, while complex carbohydrates and antioxidants are risk reduction
>factors.


Bad conclusion. The fat and protein that are "risk factors" were consumed
with HIGH CARB diets.

It is not news that fat eaten in the presence of carbs is dietary disaster.

It might just as well be found that fat and protein eaten with a low carb
diet is protective against cancer. In fact, studies have shown that high
blood sugar promotes the growth of cancer cells.

-- Jenny
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

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"mcp6453" <mcp6453@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> As I grapple with the debate over aspartame poisoning has any merit
> (trying to determine the cause of numbness in my hands, feet, and face
> after losing 30 pounds on LC), I find this article:
>
> Diet and Your Prostate
> December 22, 2003
> Dietary Links to Prostate Cancer
>
> A new multi-country study strengthens the link between animal products
> as risk factors for prostate cancer, and vegetable products, especially
> onions, as risk reduction factors. The study, now on line at European
> Urology,* (William B. Grant, Ph.D., A multicountry ecologic study of
> risk and risk reduction factors for prostate cancer mortality, European
> Urology, doi:10.1016/j.eururo.2003.08.018), investigated links between
> national diets and prostate cancer mortality rates to identify major
> risk factors for prostate cancer. The indication that this might be a
> useful approach comes from comparing national prostate cancer mortality
> rates: prostate cancer mortality rates in the U.S. and northern Europe
> are approximately 5 times higher than in Hong Kong, Iran, Japan, and
> Turkey.
>
> The strongest risk factor for prostate cancer mortality was animal
> products, such as meat and dairy products; the strongest risk reduction
> factors were onions and other protective vegetable products
> (cereals/grains, beans, fruits, and vegetables, but excluding alcohol,
> oils, and added sugar (sweeteners)). Thus, fat and protein are risk
> factors, while complex carbohydrates and antioxidants are risk reduction
> factors. This finding points to insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I)
> being an important risk factor for prostate cancer. IGF-I is also
> increased by total energy consumption. This study supports earlier
> reports that allium family vegetables (e.g., garlic, leeks, and onions)
> as important risk reduction factors for prostate cancer. This study also
> found that alcohol is a minor risk factor. No independent correlation
> was found for tomatoes, a source of lycopene, thought to reduce the risk
> of prostate cancer.
>
> <...>
>
> >

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Old 07-27-2007, 08:25 PM   #4
PJx
 
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Tell me exactly how many of those subjects were consuming less than
100 carbs per day.

Of course they didn't gather that info, but I'm sure that the
results would have been reversed if they had.

Maybe next time they do a large expensive study, they will gather
that info. As it stands the study is completely worthless to hundreds
of millions of us on low carb diets/way of eating.

PJ






On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 22:55:27 -0500, mcp6453 <mcp6453@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>As I grapple with the debate over aspartame poisoning has any merit
>(trying to determine the cause of numbness in my hands, feet, and face
>after losing 30 pounds on LC), I find this article:
>
>Diet and Your Prostate
>December 22, 2003
>Dietary Links to Prostate Cancer
>
>A new multi-country study strengthens the link between animal products
>as risk factors for prostate cancer, and vegetable products, especially
>onions, as risk reduction factors. The study, now on line at European
>Urology,* (William B. Grant, Ph.D., A multicountry ecologic study of
>risk and risk reduction factors for prostate cancer mortality, European
>Urology, doi:10.1016/j.eururo.2003.08.018), investigated links between
>national diets and prostate cancer mortality rates to identify major
>risk factors for prostate cancer. The indication that this might be a
>useful approach comes from comparing national prostate cancer mortality
>rates: prostate cancer mortality rates in the U.S. and northern Europe
>are approximately 5 times higher than in Hong Kong, Iran, Japan, and
>Turkey.
>
>The strongest risk factor for prostate cancer mortality was animal
>products, such as meat and dairy products; the strongest risk reduction
>factors were onions and other protective vegetable products
>(cereals/grains, beans, fruits, and vegetables, but excluding alcohol,
>oils, and added sugar (sweeteners)). Thus, fat and protein are risk
>factors, while complex carbohydrates and antioxidants are risk reduction
>factors. This finding points to insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I)
>being an important risk factor for prostate cancer. IGF-I is also
>increased by total energy consumption. This study supports earlier
>reports that allium family vegetables (e.g., garlic, leeks, and onions)
>as important risk reduction factors for prostate cancer. This study also
>found that alcohol is a minor risk factor. No independent correlation
>was found for tomatoes, a source of lycopene, thought to reduce the risk
>of prostate cancer.
>
><...>
>
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Old 07-27-2007, 08:27 PM   #5
jamie
 
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mcp6453 <mcp6453@earthlink.net> wrote:
> As I grapple with the debate over aspartame poisoning has any merit
> (trying to determine the cause of numbness in my hands, feet, and face
> after losing 30 pounds on LC), I find this article:


Are you taking a supplement or combined supplements with a high dose
of B6 (pyridoxine)?

From memory, I believe the RDA for B6 is 5 to 10mg, and doses of 50mg
or more a day can cause medical problems (temporary nerve damage),
that will only resolve some time after stopping the B6. I've seen some
"super" multis in stores that list excessive amounts of B6.

(AFAIR, all the other B vitamins are excreted in excess.)

--
jamie (jamiemck@newsguy.com)

"There's a seeker born every minute."
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Old 07-27-2007, 08:27 PM   #6
Frank Lynch
 
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Something will kill us all, a different something usually. But
assuming the conclusions were robust, one would have to weigh the
prostate cancer risk against the risk of other deathalizers.

Frank Lynch
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Old 07-27-2007, 08:29 PM   #7
mcp6453
 
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jamie wrote:
>
> mcp6453 <mcp6453@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > As I grapple with the debate over aspartame poisoning has any merit
> > (trying to determine the cause of numbness in my hands, feet, and face
> > after losing 30 pounds on LC), I find this article:

>
> Are you taking a supplement or combined supplements with a high dose
> of B6 (pyridoxine)?
>
> From memory, I believe the RDA for B6 is 5 to 10mg, and doses of 50mg
> or more a day can cause medical problems (temporary nerve damage),
> that will only resolve some time after stopping the B6. I've seen some
> "super" multis in stores that list excessive amounts of B6.
>
> (AFAIR, all the other B vitamins are excreted in excess.)


No, I'm not. The only supplement I'm taking is Occuvite, which has no
B6. Something is causing this numbness, and I hope it's reversible.
While I don't think it was triggered by my weight loss, I believe it was
triggered by something associated with the change in lifestyle that
allowed the weight loss. Blood work is perfect. The latest theory is
aspartame, but a lot of medical professionals, including Dr. Dean Edell,
say that the aspartame scare is fictional. I'm not big on conspiracies,
so I'll wait and see since I've just now cut out all aspartame.
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